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	it was said that: If you want to make peace, you don't talk to your friends. You talk to your enemies. sure all of us r sorry for our misunderstood Islamic world, but what have we done about that??? there r so many groups i advise u to cheack them out and see what Americans and jews say about Islam and Arabs, such as "world politics" Reply \| Report Abuse Posted by Nada it was said that: If you want to make peace, you don't talk to your friends. You talk to your enemies. sure all of us r sorry for our misunderstood Islamic world, but what have we done about that??? there r so many groups i advise u to cheack them out and see what Americans and jews say about Islam and Arabs, such as "world politics" Note: To add an image or link in your message, use <img src="image URL"> or <a href="link URL">Text </a> Quote Original Watch this Topic	Jul 21, 2008 6:08 AM
	WE DONT WANT PEACE THAT LEADS TO UNDERSTANDING , WE WANT UNDERSTANDING THAT LEADS TO PEACE.. Reply \| Report Abuse Posted by Nada WE DONT WANT PEACE THAT LEADS TO UNDERSTANDING , WE WANT UNDERSTANDING THAT LEADS TO PEACE.. Note: To add an image or link in your message, use <img src="image URL"> or <a href="link URL">Text </a> Quote Original Watch this Topic	Jul 21, 2008 6:21 AM
	Nada we wants I wants understanding that leads to peace as well but the facts are much deeper then what you trying to print.... Understanding is a psychological process related to an abstract or physical object, such as, person, situation, or message whereby one is able to think about it and use concepts to deal adequately with that object. this current generation fail to understand Islam or Arabs ways of life, such as suicide bombers, acts of terror upon the unbelievers of Islam, killing a female for refusing to marry a non Muslim, killing a person for converting to Christianity, killing your gay ppl, stoning a cheating girl to death and other things... Once again understanding - use concepts to deal adequately with that object. We can't deal with issue as stated above adequately with your leaders... as you know Christian can live with you a Muslim no problem but we can't let you kill a female for refusing to marry a non-Muslim... This is unjust! Freedom of religion is what keeps America going, any religion can be president but we can't accept the unjust law of Islam therefore a Muslim can't be president... understanding is a process that we physically undergoes, we accept ppl for who they are, we don't accept wrong doing... not all Americans are God believers, they wants prove not some old boot that said things.. we respect and understand them not kill them... or force them... we accept Muslim and respect Muslims but oppose your forceful ways... I do agree with you "understanding that leads to peace" but you have to start the process... to achieve peace and I don't think Muslim ppl will ever understand that... Peace: can be a state of harmony or the absence of hostility. "Peace" can also be a non-violent way of life. "Peace" is used to describe the cessation of violent conflict Once that processing is started like in America "freedom of religion" there will be a age of peace... Peace = a state of harmony... if a female for refusing to marry a non-Muslim, let God judge her not you if you kill her this is Unjust law...! if a man kills another man, he is put to death in a respectful manner, this is a Just Law to keep the peace.. Reply \| Report Abuse Posted by Jonathan X Nada we wants I wants understanding that leads to peace as well but the facts are much deeper then what you trying to print.... Understanding is a psychological process related to an abstract or physical object, such as, person, situation, or message whereby one is able to think about it and use concepts to deal adequately with that object. this current generation fail to understand Islam or Arabs ways of life, such as suicide bombers, acts of terror upon the unbelievers of Islam, killing a female for refusing to marry a non Muslim, killing a person for converting to Christianity, killing your gay ppl, stoning a cheating girl to death and other things... Once again understanding - use concepts to deal adequately with that object. We can't deal with issue as stated above adequately with your leaders... as you know Christian can live with you a Muslim no problem but we can't let you kill a female for refusing to marry a non-Muslim... This is unjust! Freedom of religion is what keeps America going, any religion can be president but we can't accept the unjust law of Islam therefore a Muslim can't be president... understanding is a process that we physically undergoes, we accept ppl for who they are, we don't accept wrong doing... not all Americans are God believers, they wants prove not some old boot that said things.. we respect and understand them not kill them... or force them... we accept Muslim and respect Muslims but oppose your forceful ways... I do agree with you "understanding that leads to peace" but you have to start the process... to achieve peace and I don't think Muslim ppl will ever understand that... Peace: can be a state of harmony or the absence of hostility. "Peace" can also be a non-violent way of life. "Peace" is used to describe the cessation of violent conflict Once that processing is started like in America "freedom of religion" there will be a age of peace... Peace = a state of harmony... if a female for refusing to marry a non-Muslim, let God judge her not you if you kill her this is Unjust law...! if a man kills another man, he is put to death in a respectful manner, this is a Just Law to keep the peace.. Note: To add an image or link in your message, use <img src="image URL"> or <a href="link URL">Text </a> Quote Original Watch this Topic	Jul 21, 2008 9:44 AM
	thank u for ur answer, >this current generation fail to understand Islam or Arabs ways of life, such as suicide bombers, acts of terror upon the unbelievers of Islam, killing a female.....till the end of crimes first dont talk in general about the whooole Islamic generation, second i dont consider suicide bombers as criminals as they defend their hometown and family, those ppl bury their dead sons everyday and lose their home and family and , what do u want them to do?!... and why u see a man who holding a stone or wearing bombs a criminal Muslim and u forget about the whooole aramy that holding weapons and drivivg tanks in the streets...???! > acts of terror upon the unbelievers of Islam, i have friends from all religions , even in this Islamic group there r so many unmuslim ppl... this act of terror happens in every religion .. and i think Muslims are the one who suffer much from this intolerance , hey it is so clear that ppl keep on fighting our religion our culture and beliefs.. >we can't let you kill a female for refusing to marry a non-Muslim... what do u mean by "we"?Christian? first,yes a female Muslim isnt allowed to marry unmuslim but i have never heard about someone who was killed for this reason.. simply it is sooo rare so i wont waste time to talk about that. secondly, i am sorry but it is not a christian business to have the right to "let" us or not.. i think u talk about "freedom of religion" and it is all about Muslim.. >we can't accept the unjust law of Islam therefore a Muslim can't be president... unjust law of Islam?????? how much do u know about Islam to say that?? u see Islam only in the bad examples of Arabs but Islam isnt Arabs and Arabs arent islam.. let me ask u Every country has problems & bad people are every where in the world , so why if some Muslims make a mistake u put the blame on Islam it self & if one Arab make a crime , all the Arabs will be hated ... really what the hell is that??! is that justice from ur point of view?????? Reply \| Report Abuse Posted by Nada thank u for ur answer, >this current generation fail to understand Islam or Arabs ways of life, such as suicide bombers, acts of terror upon the unbelievers of Islam, killing a female.....till the end of crimes first dont talk in general about the whooole Islamic generation, second i dont consider suicide bombers as criminals as they defend their hometown and family, those ppl bury their dead sons everyday and lose their home and family and , what do u want them to do?!... and why u see a man who holding a stone or wearing bombs a criminal Muslim and u forget about the whooole aramy that holding weapons and drivivg tanks in the streets...???! > acts of terror upon the unbelievers of Islam, i have friends from all religions , even in this Islamic group there r so many unmuslim ppl... this act of terror happens in every religion .. and i think Muslims are the one who suffer much from this intolerance , hey it is so clear that ppl keep on fighting our religion our culture and beliefs.. >we can't let you kill a female for refusing to marry a non-Muslim... what do u mean by "we"?Christian? first,yes a female Muslim isnt allowed to marry unmuslim but i have never heard about someone who was killed for this reason.. simply it is sooo rare so i wont waste time to talk about that. secondly, i am sorry but it is not a christian business to have the right to "let" us or not.. i think u talk about "freedom of religion" and it is all about Muslim.. >we can't accept the unjust law of Islam therefore a Muslim can't be president... unjust law of Islam?????? how much do u know about Islam to say that?? u see Islam only in the bad examples of Arabs but Islam isnt Arabs and Arabs arent islam.. let me ask u Every country has problems & bad people are every where in the world , so why if some Muslims make a mistake u put the blame on Islam it self & if one Arab make a crime , all the Arabs will be hated ... really what the hell is that??! is that justice from ur point of view?????? Note: To add an image or link in your message, use <img src="image URL"> or <a href="link URL">Text </a> Quote Original Watch this Topic	Jul 21, 2008 5:13 PM
	Jonathan, are you living in denial or are you deliberatly acting ignorant to make islam look violent and christianity look like "Peace"? Before you talk about crimes Muslims have done, take a look at what christians have done and are doing. What law in Islam is unjust? Can you show me where in the Islamic law it says that a Muslim women should be killed if she marries a non-muslim man? And who said that this is the way of life of the Muslims and Arabs? - "this current generation fail to understand Islam or Arabs ways of life, such as suicide bombers, acts of terror upon the unbelievers of Islam, killing a female for refusing to marry a non Muslim, killing a person for converting to Christianity, killing your gay ppl, stoning a cheating girl to death and other things..." Gays are beaten up every day in christian countries, even killed, but i dont hear you bring this up? Honourkillings take place often among christians in the east because it is something which comes from a backwards way of thinking, not from Islam. According to the bible, an apostate must be killed yet why dont u mention this? Perhaps you should take a look at the acts of terror performed by christians and jews on Muslims before u speak. There are Muslims who do wrong acts but they dont have the support of Islamic law in it so why do you try to make it seem that it comes from Islamic law? Cant u play fair, do u have to use snake-ways to show christianity as the peaceful and Islam as the violent? Well u should go fool someone else because we already know how ur peace slogan is just a cover of a dark madness and lies. The same kind of darkness which caused christian men to rape small muslim girls and their mothers in several camps around lebanon. They raped them and then used a knife to mutilate them. Which isent the only incident of such kind of crimes made by christians. Should i ask you why the christian law allows men to cut women with knifes because there have been christians who have done this several times? This also happened in Africa by a christian militia. If you want people to differ between killers who call themselfs christians and christianity then you should do the same when it comes to Islam otherwise you are just a hypocrite. Did you join this group to attack Islam and Muslims or what? it seems so judging by the posts u have posted in here so far. Reply \| Report Abuse Posted by Mohammad Jonathan, are you living in denial or are you deliberatly acting ignorant to make islam look violent and christianity look like "Peace"? Before you talk about crimes Muslims have done, take a look at what christians have done and are doing. What law in Islam is unjust? Can you show me where in the Islamic law it says that a Muslim women should be killed if she marries a non-muslim man? And who said that this is the way of life of the Muslims and Arabs? - "this current generation fail to understand Islam or Arabs ways of life, such as suicide bombers, acts of terror upon the unbelievers of Islam, killing a female for refusing to marry a non Muslim, killing a person for converting to Christianity, killing your gay ppl, stoning a cheating girl to death and other things..." Gays are beaten up every day in christian countries, even killed, but i dont hear you bring this up? Honourkillings take place often among christians in the east because it is something which comes from a backwards way of thinking, not from Islam. According to the bible, an apostate must be killed yet why dont u mention this? Perhaps you should take a look at the acts of terror performed by christians and jews on Muslims before u speak. There are Muslims who do wrong acts but they dont have the support of Islamic law in it so why do you try to make it seem that it comes from Islamic law? Cant u play fair, do u have to use snake-ways to show christianity as the peaceful and Islam as the violent? Well u should go fool someone else because we already know how ur peace slogan is just a cover of a dark madness and lies. The same kind of darkness which caused christian men to rape small muslim girls and their mothers in several camps around lebanon. They raped them and then used a knife to mutilate them. Which isent the only incident of such kind of crimes made by christians. Should i ask you why the christian law allows men to cut women with knifes because there have been christians who have done this several times? This also happened in Africa by a christian militia. If you want people to differ between killers who call themselfs christians and christianity then you should do the same when it comes to Islam otherwise you are just a hypocrite. Did you join this group to attack Islam and Muslims or what? it seems so judging by the posts u have posted in here so far. Note: To add an image or link in your message, use <img src="image URL"> or <a href="link URL">Text </a> Quote Original Watch this Topic	Jul 22, 2008 2:56 AM
	u r American, right? >we accept Muslim and respect Muslims , come onnn , should i believe this??, cuz Muslims r the most ones who suffer from less of respect espcially in ue country.. > you have to start the process... to achieve peace and I don't think Muslim ppl will ever understand that... and American understand that, right? u keep on explaining the meaning of "peace" but i adive u to cheak out some pics about " American violence in Iraq or Abogharib jail" and u will find out that ur country know nothing about what peace is.. and u will give us every reason to consider it as our enemy.. by the way thanks for the definitions.. ;) Reply \| Report Abuse Posted by Nada u r American, right? >we accept Muslim and respect Muslims , come onnn , should i believe this??, cuz Muslims r the most ones who suffer from less of respect espcially in ue country.. > you have to start the process... to achieve peace and I don't think Muslim ppl will ever understand that... and American understand that, right? u keep on explaining the meaning of "peace" but i adive u to cheak out some pics about " American violence in Iraq or Abogharib jail" and u will find out that ur country know nothing about what peace is.. and u will give us every reason to consider it as our enemy.. by the way thanks for the definitions.. ;) Note: To add an image or link in your message, use <img src="image URL"> or <a href="link URL">Text </a> Quote Original Watch this Topic	Jul 22, 2008 3:07 AM
	I'm not a judge... I'm sorry if I sound like a Judge... but I wrote it to get a understanding of your side.... why are you soo mad against the world.... from these replies I'm able to see some things.... thx Reply \| Report Abuse Posted by Jonathan X I'm not a judge... I'm sorry if I sound like a Judge... but I wrote it to get a understanding of your side.... why are you soo mad against the world.... from these replies I'm able to see some things.... thx Note: To add an image or link in your message, use <img src="image URL"> or <a href="link URL">Text </a> Quote Original Watch this Topic	Jul 22, 2008 3:28 AM
	Dear I think u did not have information about Islam and Islamic laws etc.. that’s why u using such kind of words so before saying some thing on base of ur own perception and misconception u should get the right information about Islam. And Islamic Law. Regarding terrorism I think it is the most hot topic of western media that always linked the personal actions of some one to whole religion. Islam is against all kind of terrorism and Islam is the only way to finish the terrorism from whole world . Quran saya… God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (Quran, 60:8) You know it better and whole world knows it better that who is killing innocent people around the world on name false “war Against Terror” Understanding .. Understanding only can develop when u mentally get rid of all kind of biases , if u start understanding with negative approach as u said that “ Muslim can never understand” then my friend its hard for u to understand muslims and for muslim understand u r ur thinking.. let me say its west who did not want that their people understand r get positive information about Islam.. but Allhumdulilah.. as western media trying to deshape Islam , more and more people there embracing the Islam and u can check the figures that how many people embrace Islam after 9/11. Brath Said= “Peace: can be a state of harmony or the absence of hostility. "Peace" can also be a non-violent way of life. "Peace" is used to describe the cessation of violent conflict “ I agree with u that Peace is a state of mind.. . but my question is that ‘ can some one bring peace on world with help of attacking on other countries.. . u not feeling that for only one USA+MA attack a country and or on base of false information about weapons of Mass destructions killed millions of people .. do u think that can develop understanding ? r these attacks can bring peace in world……….. ? I think u should be little realistic if u cannot speak truth then do not support the false.. I think u should see things with ur own eyes rather follow blindly the media. May Allah guide tu towards true path ameen Reply \| Report Abuse Posted by gull Dear I think u did not have information about Islam and Islamic laws etc.. that’s why u using such kind of words so before saying some thing on base of ur own perception and misconception u should get the right information about Islam. And Islamic Law. Regarding terrorism I think it is the most hot topic of western media that always linked the personal actions of some one to whole religion. Islam is against all kind of terrorism and Islam is the only way to finish the terrorism from whole world . Quran saya… God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (Quran, 60:8) You know it better and whole world knows it better that who is killing innocent people around the world on name false “war Against Terror” Understanding .. Understanding only can develop when u mentally get rid of all kind of biases , if u start understanding with negative approach as u said that “ Muslim can never understand” then my friend its hard for u to understand muslims and for muslim understand u r ur thinking.. let me say its west who did not want that their people understand r get positive information about Islam.. but Allhumdulilah.. as western media trying to deshape Islam , more and more people there embracing the Islam and u can check the figures that how many people embrace Islam after 9/11. Brath Said= “Peace: can be a state of harmony or the absence of hostility. "Peace" can also be a non-violent way of life. "Peace" is used to describe the cessation of violent conflict “ I agree with u that Peace is a state of mind.. . but my question is that ‘ can some one bring peace on world with help of attacking on other countries.. . u not feeling that for only one USA+MA attack a country and or on base of false information about weapons of Mass destructions killed millions of people .. do u think that can develop understanding ? r these attacks can bring peace in world……….. ? I think u should be little realistic if u cannot speak truth then do not support the false.. I think u should see things with ur own eyes rather follow blindly the media. May Allah guide tu towards true path ameen Note: To add an image or link in your message, use <img src="image URL"> or <a href="link URL">Text </a> Quote Original Watch this Topic	Jul 22, 2008 4:34 AM
	Jonathan Brath its a problem with West that they always cries for Peace but did not understand the meaning of Peace.. they search peace in weapons .. and they think what they r saying is right and rest of world did not know any thing .. lol Reply \| Report Abuse Posted by gull Jonathan Brath its a problem with West that they always cries for Peace but did not understand the meaning of Peace.. they search peace in weapons .. and they think what they r saying is right and rest of world did not know any thing .. lol Note: To add an image or link in your message, use <img src="image URL"> or <a href="link URL">Text </a> Quote Original Watch this Topic	Jul 22, 2008 4:42 AM
	GULL: "Understanding ... Understanding only can develop when u mentally get rid of all kind of biases , if u start understanding with negative approach as u said that “ Muslim can never understand” then my friend its hard for u to understand muslims and for muslim understand u r ur thinking.. let me say its west who did not want that their people understand r get positive information about Islam.. but Allhumdulilah.. as western media trying to deshape Islam , more and more people there embracing the Islam and u can check the figures that how many people embrace Islam after 9/11." ### becuase the death of thousands of innocent ppl, more ppl embrace Islam... plain and simple... huh GULL: Regarding terrorism I think it is the most hot topic of western media that always linked the personal actions of some one to whole religion. Islam is against all kind of terrorism and Islam is the only way to finish the terrorism from whole world . you said Islam is against killing right? huh and the once doing the killing are not muslim...? NADA: "first dont talk in general about the whooole Islamic generation, second i dont consider suicide bombers as criminals as they defend their hometown and family, those ppl bury their dead sons everyday and lose their home and family and , what do u want them to do?!..." You embrace the suicide bombers that try to kill 2 or 5 enemies, in the process he kills 20 to 30 Muslims/innocents and injury 60 to 80 others... NADA: "first,yes a female Muslim isn’t allowed to marry unmuslim but i have never heard about someone who was killed for this reason.. simply it is sooo rare so i wont waste time to talk about that. secondly, i am sorry but it is not a Christian business to have the right to "let" us or not.. i think u talk about "freedom of religion" and it is all about Muslim.." The fact that you agree with this is more reason to talk about it... it rarely happens... nobody should ever go thought this... Mohammad S: Can you show me where in the Islamic law it says that a Muslim women should be killed if she marries a non-Muslim man? I could post a link here but answer from your friend NADA: "first,yes a female Muslim isnt allowed to marry unmuslim..." Mohammad S: "There are Muslims who do wrong acts but they don’t have the support of Islamic law in it so why do you try to make it seem that it comes from Islamic law? Cant u play fair, do u have to use snake-ways to show Christianity as the peaceful and Islam as the violent?" No Christians are at time violent as well, I'm Black-American and I know ppl use God names for evil... but I think Muslim should bring up their young generation in a different manner and not the old... (I have not called myself Christian but I Love GOD) Reply \| Report Abuse Posted by Jonathan X GULL: "Understanding ... Understanding only can develop when u mentally get rid of all kind of biases , if u start understanding with negative approach as u said that “ Muslim can never understand” then my friend its hard for u to understand muslims and for muslim understand u r ur thinking.. let me say its west who did not want that their people understand r get positive information about Islam.. but Allhumdulilah.. as western media trying to deshape Islam , more and more people there embracing the Islam and u can check the figures that how many people embrace Islam after 9/11." ### becuase the death of thousands of innocent ppl, more ppl embrace Islam... plain and simple... huh GULL: Regarding terrorism I think it is the most hot topic of western media that always linked the personal actions of some one to whole religion. Islam is against all kind of terrorism and Islam is the only way to finish the terrorism from whole world . you said Islam is against killing right? huh and the once doing the killing are not muslim...? NADA: "first dont talk in general about the whooole Islamic generation, second i dont consider suicide bombers as criminals as they defend their hometown and family, those ppl bury their dead sons everyday and lose their home and family and , what do u want them to do?!..." You embrace the suicide bombers that try to kill 2 or 5 enemies, in the process he kills 20 to 30 Muslims/innocents and injury 60 to 80 others... NADA: "first,yes a female Muslim isn’t allowed to marry unmuslim but i have never heard about someone who was killed for this reason.. simply it is sooo rare so i wont waste time to talk about that. secondly, i am sorry but it is not a Christian business to have the right to "let" us or not.. i think u talk about "freedom of religion" and it is all about Muslim.." The fact that you agree with this is more reason to talk about it... it rarely happens... nobody should ever go thought this... Mohammad S: Can you show me where in the Islamic law it says that a Muslim women should be killed if she marries a non-Muslim man? I could post a link here but answer from your friend NADA: "first,yes a female Muslim isnt allowed to marry unmuslim..." Mohammad S: "There are Muslims who do wrong acts but they don’t have the support of Islamic law in it so why do you try to make it seem that it comes from Islamic law? Cant u play fair, do u have to use snake-ways to show Christianity as the peaceful and Islam as the violent?" No Christians are at time violent as well, I'm Black-American and I know ppl use God names for evil... but I think Muslim should bring up their young generation in a different manner and not the old... (I have not called myself Christian but I Love GOD) Note: To add an image or link in your message, use <img src="image URL"> or <a href="link URL">Text </a> Quote Original Watch this Topic	Jul 22, 2008 8:57 AM

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